From des at linpro.no  Sat Jul  8 12:55:13 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:55:13 +0200
Subject: varnish-test-1
Message-ID: <ujr7j2ocl3i.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

I did some more troubleshooting on varnish-test-1 and came up blank.
None of the diagnostics utilities provide any meaningful information
(other than "disk in channel 2 slot 2 failed").  No matter how I move
the disks around, only the disks in slots 0 and 1 (on channel 1) work;
disks in the other four slots (on channel 2) spin up and go red.  I
tried adding a second power supply (temporarily borrowed from
varnish-test-2, which has two but uses only one) on the off chance
that there simply wasn't enough power for four 15k disks, but that
made no difference.

I wiped the array and created a RAID 0 array with the two disks on
channel 0, so we can at least use the machine.  I didn't take a backup
before wiping it, but I copied the password files and home directories
over from varnish-test-2 after reinstalling.  Note that the SSH host
key has changed.

I'd be very interested in hearing from HP what they think the problem
is.  I didn't much care for their "are you sure the server was
installed by competent personnel" attitude.

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From andersb at vgnett.no  Sun Jul  9 15:12:37 2006
From: andersb at vgnett.no (Anders Berg)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:12:37 +0200
Subject: varnish-misc Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <20060709100002.ADB7A1EC223@projects.linpro.no>
References: <20060709100002.ADB7A1EC223@projects.linpro.no>
Message-ID: <28A6F243-69FD-4897-B97A-0690CD630610@vgnett.no>


On Jul 9, 2006, at 12:00, varnish-misc-request at projects.linpro.no wrote:


>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:55:13 +0200
> From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav )
> Subject: varnish-test-1
> To: varnish-misc at projects.linpro.no
> Message-ID: <ujr7j2ocl3i.fsf at cat.linpro.no>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I did some more troubleshooting on varnish-test-1 and came up blank.
> None of the diagnostics utilities provide any meaningful information
> (other than "disk in channel 2 slot 2 failed").  No matter how I move
> the disks around, only the disks in slots 0 and 1 (on channel 1) work;
> disks in the other four slots (on channel 2) spin up and go red.  I
> tried adding a second power supply (temporarily borrowed from
> varnish-test-2, which has two but uses only one) on the off chance
> that there simply wasn't enough power for four 15k disks, but that
> made no difference.

Okay, something is really broken then I guess. I'll give HP a call  
and see what we come up with.

Anders Berg

> I wiped the array and created a RAID 0 array with the two disks on
> channel 0, so we can at least use the machine.  I didn't take a backup
> before wiping it, but I copied the password files and home directories
> over from varnish-test-2 after reinstalling.  Note that the SSH host
> key has changed.
>
> I'd be very interested in hearing from HP what they think the problem
> is.  I didn't much care for their "are you sure the server was
> installed by competent personnel" attitude.
>
> DES
> -- 
> Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
> Senior Software Developer
> Linpro AS - www.linpro.no
>



From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Sun Jul  9 16:38:33 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:38:33 +0000
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many)
Message-ID: <65004.1152463113@critter.freebsd.dk>


Anders,

I'm seeing some weird headers and just to make sure that it is not
varnish which messes things up, I would appreciate if you could
find out if you also see them in Squid.

Here are three examples:

--------------------
04  19  874 SessionOpen  <165.21.154.111 3085>
1a  10  874 XID          <1211144113>
0e   3  874 Request      <GET>
12  15  874 URL          </sistenytt.html>
13   8  874 Protocol     <HTTP/1.1>
14  15  874 Header       <Host: www.vg.no>
14  37  874 Header       <User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;)>
14  22  874 Header       <Accept: text/html, */*>
14  61  874 Header       <If-Modified-Since: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 07:35:27 GMT; leng
th=1730>
14  36  874 Header       <If-None-Match: "1a89b4-6c2-44ae0ebf">
14  26  874 Header       <Cache-Control: max-stale=0>
14  17  874 Header       <Cneonction: close>
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
14  32  874 Header       <X-BlueCoat-Via: 38E8F7FA07E482A8>
14  22  874 Header       <Connection: Keep-Alive>
14  32  874 Header       <X-Forwarded-For:  165.21.154.132>
17   4  874 VCL_call     <recv 1 4.14 2 5.9 5 8.5 6 8.9 7 8.34 9 11.5 lookup>
1b  10  874 Hit          <1210949324>
17   3  874 VCL_call     <hit 10 14.13 11 15.9 13 18.5 deliver>
11   3  874 Status       <200>
10   4  874 Length       <1744>
05  19  874 SessionReuse <165.21.154.111 3085>
--------------------
04  21  497 SessionOpen  <213.161.240.187 12927>
1a  10  497 XID          <1210954928>
0e   3  497 Request      <GET>
12  14  497 URL          </css/hoved.css>
13   8  497 Protocol     <HTTP/1.1>
14  11  497 Header       <Accept: */*>
14  52  497 Header       <Weferer: SQHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRC>
                          ^^^^^^^
14  19  497 Header       <Accept-Language: no>
14  30  497 Header       <Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate>
14  97  497 Header       <User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
 NT 5.1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)>
14  15  497 Header       <Host: www.vg.no>
14  22  497 Header       <Connection: Keep-Alive>
17   4  497 VCL_call     <recv 1 4.14 2 5.9 5 8.5 6 8.9 7 8.34 9 11.5 lookup>
1b  10  497 Hit          <1210949321>
17   3  497 VCL_call     <hit 10 14.13 11 15.9 13 18.5 deliver>
11   3  497 Status       <200>
10   4  497 Length       <6801>
05  21  497 SessionReuse <213.161.240.187 12927>
--------------------
04  18  869 SessionOpen  <62.16.181.213 6057>
1a  10  869 XID          <1210962197>
0e   3  869 Request      <GET>
12  15  869 URL          </sistenytt.html>
13   8  869 Protocol     <HTTP/1.0>
14  15  869 Header       <Host: www.vg.no>
14 102  869 Header       <User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; e
n-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060508 Firefox/1.5.0.4>
14 107  869 Header       <Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml
,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5>
14  31  869 Header       <Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5>
14  29  869 Header       <Accept-EncodXng: gzip,deflate>
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
14  46  869 Header       <Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7>
14  15  869 Header       <Keep-Alive: 300>
14  22  869 Header       <Connection: keep-alive>
14  16  869 Header       <Pragma: no-cache>
14  23  869 Header       <Cache-Control: no-cache>
17   4  869 VCL_call     <recv 1 4.14 2 5.9 5 8.5 6 8.9 7 8.34 9 11.5 lookup>
1b  10  869 Hit          <1210949324>
17   3  869 VCL_call     <hit 10 14.13 11 15.9 13 18.5 deliver>
11   3  869 Status       <200>
10   4  869 Length       <1744>
06  12  869 SessionClose <not HTTP/1.1>
--------------------




-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Sun Jul  9 20:11:25 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:11:25 +0000
Subject: Live test log files (2 of many) 
Message-ID: <66368.1152475885@critter.freebsd.dk>


Here are some statistics from largest of Fridays logfiles:

Total requests:		6.683.533	100.00%
Cache hits:		6.604.565	 98.81% (of total)
Fetches:		   73.551	  1.10% (of total)
Inserts:		   69.973	 95.14% (of fetches)

Expires:		   34.276	 48.98% (of inserts)

Pass (cookie/auth):	   14.525	  0.22% (of total)
Pipe: (post)		      239	  0.0036% (of total)


-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Tue Jul 11 08:12:50 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:12:50 +0200
Subject: shutting down varnish-test-2
Message-ID: <ujr1wssr24d.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

Aftenposten wants it back.  I'm dumping the file systems right now,
although everything should already be on varnish-test-1 since I copied
things over when I reinstalled it.

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Tue Jul 11 08:43:31 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:43:31 +0000
Subject: shutting down varnish-test-2 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:12:50 +0200."
	<ujr1wssr24d.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <30844.1152607411@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujr1wssr24d.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:
>Aftenposten wants it back.  I'm dumping the file systems right now,
>although everything should already be on varnish-test-1 since I copied
>things over when I reinstalled it.

All I had on it was a source tree.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Tue Jul 11 09:07:09 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:07:09 +0200
Subject: shutting down varnish-test-2
References: <30844.1152607411@critter.freebsd.dk>
Message-ID: <ujrodvwpl1e.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des at des.no> writes:
> > Aftenposten wants it back.  I'm dumping the file systems right
> > now, although everything should already be on varnish-test-1 since
> > I copied things over when I reinstalled it.
> All I had on it was a source tree.

Your ~ was copied to varnish-test-1 when I scratched it, so it's still
there.  I think the only thing in the dumps that isn't present on
varnish-test-1 is Anders's Apache setup.

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From andersb at vgnett.no  Tue Jul 11 10:29:16 2006
From: andersb at vgnett.no (Anders Berg)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:29:16 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many)
Message-ID: <1452.193.213.34.102.1152613756.squirrel@denise.vg.no>

>Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:38:33 +0000
>From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk>
>Subject: To: varnish-misc at projects.linpro.no
>Message-ID: <65004.1152463113 at critter.freebsd.dk>
>
>Anders,
>
>I'm seeing some weird headers and just to make sure that it is not
>varnish which messes things up, I would appreciate if you could
>find out if you also see them in Squid.

Wow, they look strange, to say the least.
I am not sure how to debug this in Squid, without makeing _huge_ log
files, but maybe I should do just that...

Right now though I am home with a back that has gotten worse and worse :((
So I won't be able to do this for some time.

So right now I put this on hold.

Anders Berg

>Here are three examples:

--------------------
04  19  874 SessionOpen  <165.21.154.111 3085>
1a  10  874 XID          <1211144113>
0e   3  874 Request      <GET>
12  15  874 URL          </sistenytt.html>
13   8  874 Protocol     <HTTP/1.1>
14  15  874 Header       <Host: www.vg.no>
14  37  874 Header       <User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;)>
14  22  874 Header       <Accept: text/html, */*>
14  61  874 Header       <If-Modified-Since: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 07:35:27
GMT; leng
th=1730>
14  36  874 Header       <If-None-Match: "1a89b4-6c2-44ae0ebf">
14  26  874 Header       <Cache-Control: max-stale=0>
14  17  874 Header       <Cneonction: close>
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
14  32  874 Header       <X-BlueCoat-Via: 38E8F7FA07E482A8>
14  22  874 Header       <Connection: Keep-Alive>
14  32  874 Header       <X-Forwarded-For:  165.21.154.132>
17   4  874 VCL_call     <recv 1 4.14 2 5.9 5 8.5 6 8.9 7 8.34 9 11.5 lookup>
1b  10  874 Hit          <1210949324>
17   3  874 VCL_call     <hit 10 14.13 11 15.9 13 18.5 deliver>
11   3  874 Status       <200>
10   4  874 Length       <1744>
05  19  874 SessionReuse <165.21.154.111 3085>
--------------------
04  21  497 SessionOpen  <213.161.240.187 12927>
1a  10  497 XID          <1210954928>
0e   3  497 Request      <GET>
12  14  497 URL          </css/hoved.css>
13   8  497 Protocol     <HTTP/1.1>
14  11  497 Header       <Accept: */*>
14  52  497 Header       <Weferer:
SQHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRC>
                          ^^^^^^^
14  19  497 Header       <Accept-Language: no>
14  30  497 Header       <Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate>
14  97  497 Header       <User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;
Windows
 NT 5.1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)>
14  15  497 Header       <Host: www.vg.no>
14  22  497 Header       <Connection: Keep-Alive>
17   4  497 VCL_call     <recv 1 4.14 2 5.9 5 8.5 6 8.9 7 8.34 9 11.5 lookup>
1b  10  497 Hit          <1210949321>
17   3  497 VCL_call     <hit 10 14.13 11 15.9 13 18.5 deliver>
11   3  497 Status       <200>
10   4  497 Length       <6801>
05  21  497 SessionReuse <213.161.240.187 12927>
--------------------
04  18  869 SessionOpen  <62.16.181.213 6057>
1a  10  869 XID          <1210962197>
0e   3  869 Request      <GET>
12  15  869 URL          </sistenytt.html>
13   8  869 Protocol     <HTTP/1.0>
14  15  869 Header       <Host: www.vg.no>
14 102  869 Header       <User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT
5.1; e
n-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060508 Firefox/1.5.0.4>
14 107  869 Header       <Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml
,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5>
14  31  869 Header       <Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5>
14  29  869 Header       <Accept-EncodXng: gzip,deflate>
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
14  46  869 Header       <Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7>
14  15  869 Header       <Keep-Alive: 300>
14  22  869 Header       <Connection: keep-alive>
14  16  869 Header       <Pragma: no-cache>
14  23  869 Header       <Cache-Control: no-cache>
17   4  869 VCL_call     <recv 1 4.14 2 5.9 5 8.5 6 8.9 7 8.34 9 11.5 lookup>
1b  10  869 Hit          <1210949324>
17   3  869 VCL_call     <hit 10 14.13 11 15.9 13 18.5 deliver>
11   3  869 Status       <200>
10   4  869 Length       <1744>
06  12  869 SessionClose <not HTTP/1.1>
--------------------





From des at linpro.no  Tue Jul 11 10:38:15 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:38:15 +0200
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many)
References: <1452.193.213.34.102.1152613756.squirrel@denise.vg.no>
Message-ID: <ujrhd1opgtk.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Anders Berg" <andersb at vgnett.no> writes:
> "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> > I'm seeing some weird headers and just to make sure that it is not
> > varnish which messes things up, I would appreciate if you could
> > find out if you also see them in Squid.
> Wow, they look strange, to say the least.
> I am not sure how to debug this in Squid, without makeing _huge_ log
> files, but maybe I should do just that...

An alternative would be to run Varnish at a low load and capture a
tcpdump of the traffic between Varnish and the backend.  If / when we
see strange headers in the log again, we can check the tcpdump to see
whteher they were received that way from the backend or mangled by
Varnish.

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Tue Jul 11 11:05:40 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:05:40 +0000
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many) 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:29:16 +0200."
	<1452.193.213.34.102.1152613756.squirrel@denise.vg.no> 
Message-ID: <2254.1152615940@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <1452.193.213.34.102.1152613756.squirrel at denise.vg.no>, "Anders Berg
" writes:

>Right now though I am home with a back that has gotten worse and worse :((
>So I won't be able to do this for some time.
>
>So right now I put this on hold.

Good to see that you keep your priorities straight.

>14  17  874 Header       <Cneonction: close>
>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^

This one I have found on the net, it's not our fault.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Tue Jul 11 11:09:09 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:09:09 +0000
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many) 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:38:15 +0200."
	<ujrhd1opgtk.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <2302.1152616149@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujrhd1opgtk.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:
>"Anders Berg" <andersb at vgnett.no> writes:
>> "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
>> > I'm seeing some weird headers and just to make sure that it is not
>> > varnish which messes things up, I would appreciate if you could
>> > find out if you also see them in Squid.
>> Wow, they look strange, to say the least.
>> I am not sure how to debug this in Squid, without makeing _huge_ log
>> files, but maybe I should do just that...
>
>An alternative would be to run Varnish at a low load and capture a
>tcpdump of the traffic between Varnish and the backend.

These headers were on the client side though.


-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Tue Jul 11 11:15:50 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:15:50 +0200
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many)
References: <2302.1152616149@critter.freebsd.dk>
Message-ID: <ujrac7gpf2x.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des at linpro.no> writes:
> > An alternative would be to run Varnish at a low load and capture a
> > tcpdump of the traffic between Varnish and the backend.
> These headers were on the client side though.

OK, I thought they came from the backend.

Weird headers from clients are a fact of life, I guess.  It would
still be interesting to get a tcpdump to confirm that it isn't Varnish
mangling incoming requests, but I'm a lot less worried than if it had
been on the backend side.

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Tue Jul 11 11:24:33 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:24:33 +0000
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many) 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:15:50 +0200."
	<ujrac7gpf2x.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <10950.1152617073@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujrac7gpf2x.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:
>"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
>> Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des at linpro.no> writes:
>> > An alternative would be to run Varnish at a low load and capture a
>> > tcpdump of the traffic between Varnish and the backend.
>> These headers were on the client side though.
>
>OK, I thought they came from the backend.
>
>Weird headers from clients are a fact of life, I guess.  It would
>still be interesting to get a tcpdump to confirm that it isn't Varnish
>mangling incoming requests, but I'm a lot less worried than if it had
>been on the backend side.

Same here.  All of them look like plausible, so I'm not worried, but
if Anders had an easy way to verify it would have been nice.

I guess we can verify with a tcpdump at some point.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Tue Jul 11 11:44:03 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:44:03 +0200
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many)
References: <10950.1152617073@critter.freebsd.dk>
Message-ID: <ujr64i4pdrw.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> Same here.  All of them look like plausible, so I'm not worried, but
> if Anders had an easy way to verify it would have been nice.

Could they be caused by single-bit errors?

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Tue Jul 11 11:46:35 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:46:35 +0000
Subject: Live test log files (1 of many) 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:44:03 +0200."
	<ujr64i4pdrw.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <17429.1152618395@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujr64i4pdrw.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:
>"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
>> Same here.  All of them look like plausible, so I'm not worried, but
>> if Anders had an easy way to verify it would have been nice.
>
>Could they be caused by single-bit errors?

I don't think so.  The Connection: manglement seems to be the output
of some sort of commercial accellerator.  The others looks like somebody
did a binary edit of their browser for (mostly) ideological reasons.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Tue Jul 11 13:46:31 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:46:31 +0200
Subject: Sys Admin Magazine
Message-ID: <ujrirm4ntjc.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

I have no idea how well-regarded this magazine is, but it's one of the
dozen or so that Linpro subscribes to, and it seems to print mainly
reader-contributed articles of a fairly practical nature, with code
and configuration examples - kind of Dr Dobbs style before they went
all Microsofty - with a different theme each month.  It might be worth
a shot to try to get an article about Varnish accepted.  Of particular
interest are the January 2007 issue (Open Source) and the March 2007
issue (Web Admin).  Details at <URL:http://www.samag.com/ed/>, with
links to the editorial calender and CfP.

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From des at linpro.no  Tue Jul 11 14:23:51 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:23:51 +0200
Subject: Dates
Message-ID: <ujrbqrwnrt4.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

I am fairly agnostic regarding the test / deployment / delivery dates
as long as everyone is confident that everything will be ready in
time.  In view of what has been discussed on -dev, here's what I'd
suggest:

 - mid-July (hopefully early next week)

     Alpha release

 - early August (taking Anders's wedding and Poul-Henning's children
   into consideration)

     Second test workshop

 - mid-August (immediately after the workshop)

     Code freeze; Beta release; deployment

 - late August or early September (mostly dependent on Anders's
   availability)

     Final delivery; 1.0 release

The delay between deployment and final delivery is to allow for bug
fixing, performance assessment, polish, documentation and release
engineering.

The only worry I have is that another five-day test workshop will eat
up most of my remaining time (this is not a matter of work capacity,
but of the number of contracted hours)

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Tue Jul 11 14:33:54 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:33:54 +0000
Subject: Dates 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:23:51 +0200."
	<ujrbqrwnrt4.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <29560.1152628434@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujrbqrwnrt4.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:

>The only worry I have is that another five-day test workshop will eat
>up most of my remaining time (this is not a matter of work capacity,
>but of the number of contracted hours)

Yes, I'm wondering about the wisdom of this considering how well
our first live test went.

With respect to stability and performance we are where I expected
to be after live test 2, with respect to features we are not.

But testing features is not even close to a good use of a live test.

Here is an alternative and slightly more agrresive plan:

Mid July (phk and/or des)
	Ad-Hoc supervised low-volume production at VGNETT

	Anders need to set the Alteon to a very low setting,
	but otherwise his involvement is not required.

	Alpha release.

Late July (phk, anders & des)
	Coordinated supervised high-volume production at VGNETT

	Same formula as last time, only I stay in Denmark and
	we restrict to one day.

	Beta release.

Early August
	Unsupervised low-volume production at VGETT
	   later
	Unsupervised high-volume production at VGETT

	Anders makes the call on this one.

September

	Release 1.0


(This would push the NUUG talk into September as well)

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Tue Jul 11 14:44:10 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:44:10 +0200
Subject: Dates
References: <29560.1152628434@critter.freebsd.dk>
Message-ID: <ujr3bd8nqv9.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> Here is an alternative and slightly more agrresive plan:
>
> Mid July (phk and/or des)
> 	Ad-Hoc supervised low-volume production at VGNETT
>
> 	Anders need to set the Alteon to a very low setting,
> 	but otherwise his involvement is not required.
>
> 	Alpha release.
>
> Late July (phk, anders & des)
> 	Coordinated supervised high-volume production at VGNETT
>
> 	Same formula as last time, only I stay in Denmark and
> 	we restrict to one day.
>
> 	Beta release.
>
> Early August
> 	Unsupervised low-volume production at VGETT
> 	   later
> 	Unsupervised high-volume production at VGETT
>
> 	Anders makes the call on this one.
>
> September
>
> 	Release 1.0

I am far more comfortable with this plan than I was with previous
iterations.  Anders, how do you feel about it?

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Thu Jul 13 12:07:52 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:07:52 +0000
Subject: Sys Admin Magazine 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:46:31 +0200."
	<ujrirm4ntjc.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <69618.1152792472@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujrirm4ntjc.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:

>It might be wortha shot to try to get an article about Varnish accepted.

Sounds like a good venue for the howto-like "coming out of the closet" 
article.

I'll be talking at "The Camp" again this year, and I may use that as
a prototype for the "How to code high performance programs this millenium"
talk I'm thinking about

	http://www.thecamp.dk/wiki/index.php/Program_2006


-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Fri Jul 14 13:56:21 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:56:21 +0200
Subject: Dates
References: <29560.1152628434@critter.freebsd.dk>
Message-ID: <ujr64i0s322.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> September
>
> 	Release 1.0
>
> (This would push the NUUG talk into September as well)

NUUG have a slot on September 12th which hasn't been filled yet.

How about we do the official release on the 12th to coincide with your
talk?

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Fri Jul 14 14:11:17 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:11:17 +0000
Subject: Dates 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:56:21 +0200."
	<ujr64i0s322.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <80345.1152886277@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujr64i0s322.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:
>"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
>> September
>>
>> 	Release 1.0
>>
>> (This would push the NUUG talk into September as well)
>
>NUUG have a slot on September 12th which hasn't been filled yet.
>
>How about we do the official release on the 12th to coincide with your
>talk?

Works for me.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Fri Jul 14 22:37:58 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:37:58 +0200
Subject: Dates
In-Reply-To: <80345.1152886277@critter.freebsd.dk> (Poul-Henning Kamp's
	message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:11:17 +0000")
References: <80345.1152886277@critter.freebsd.dk>
Message-ID: <ujrd5c7x16h.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des at linpro.no> writes:
> > NUUG have a slot on September 12th which hasn't been filled yet.
> > How about we do the official release on the 12th to coincide with
> > your talk?
> Works for me.

Excellent.  I spoke to Anders Nordby about it earlier today; also to
Linpro's marketing director, who is going to try to scare up some tech
press to attend.

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From Anders.Berg at vg.no  Sat Jul 15 10:38:20 2006
From: Anders.Berg at vg.no (Anders Berg)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:38:20 +0200
Subject: Dates
References: <80345.1152886277@critter.freebsd.dk> 
	<ujrd5c7x16h.fsf@cat.linpro.no>
Message-ID: <6AD33D89A21F7B479107D712EF96FDA528CBB0@VG-EXC-VIR-1.Akersgt.local>

Hi,

while I am not available the 12. sept (as I wrote in an earlier mail), we could still do the realease then.
What we are not gonna do is scare up some press for the tech talk alone. Before the release I suggest that we have made a media strategy. Nothing heavy, but involving your marketing director and someone from VG. Remember, we get to use VG Nett in some way in the realease, lets make that drumbeat lound when we use it.

Anders Berg

 
"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des at linpro.no> writes:
> > NUUG have a slot on September 12th which hasn't been filled yet.
> > How about we do the official release on the 12th to coincide with
> > your talk?
> Works for me.

Excellent.  I spoke to Anders Nordby about it earlier today; also to
Linpro's marketing director, who is going to try to scare up some tech
press to attend.

DES
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Senior Software Developer
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From des at linpro.no  Sun Jul 16 00:34:43 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 02:34:43 +0200
Subject: Dates
References: <80345.1152886277@critter.freebsd.dk>
	<ujrd5c7x16h.fsf@cat.linpro.no>
	<6AD33D89A21F7B479107D712EF96FDA528CBB0@VG-EXC-VIR-1.Akersgt.local>
Message-ID: <ujr3bd2bd5o.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Anders Berg" <Anders.Berg at vg.no> writes:
> What we are not gonna do is scare up some press for the tech talk
> alone.

You are right; I wrote the previous message in a rush, and didn't have
time for a full summary of what Lise and I had in mind.  I'd like to
discuss this in more detail off-list; can we set up a meeting with the
relevant people from VG and Linpro?

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From Anders.Berg at vg.no  Sun Jul 16 19:32:25 2006
From: Anders.Berg at vg.no (Anders Berg)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:32:25 +0200
Subject: Dates
References: <80345.1152886277@critter.freebsd.dk><ujrd5c7x16h.fsf@cat.linpro.no><6AD33D89A21F7B479107D712EF96FDA528CBB0@VG-EXC-VIR-1.Akersgt.local>
	<ujr3bd2bd5o.fsf@cat.linpro.no>
Message-ID: <6AD33D89A21F7B479107D712EF96FDA528CBB3@VG-EXC-VIR-1.Akersgt.local>

Topic moved off-list.

Anders Berg


-----Original Message-----
From: varnish-misc-bounces at projects.linpro.no on behalf of Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Sent: Sun 7/16/2006 2:34 AM
To: varnish-misc at projects.linpro.no
Subject: Re: Dates
 
"Anders Berg" <Anders.Berg at vg.no> writes:
> What we are not gonna do is scare up some press for the tech talk
> alone.

You are right; I wrote the previous message in a rush, and didn't have
time for a full summary of what Lise and I had in mind.  I'd like to
discuss this in more detail off-list; can we set up a meeting with the
relevant people from VG and Linpro?

DES
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From des at linpro.no  Mon Jul 17 07:58:26 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:58:26 +0200
Subject: Varnish article on www.linpro.no
Message-ID: <ujrhd1gbr31.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

http://www.linpro.no/hva_skjer/hardkjoer_for_ny_http_akselerator

DES
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Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Mon Jul 17 08:03:18 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:03:18 +0000
Subject: Varnish article on www.linpro.no 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:58:26 +0200."
	<ujrhd1gbr31.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <44731.1153123398@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujrhd1gbr31.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:

>http://www.linpro.no/hva_skjer/hardkjoer_for_ny_http_akselerator

I appreciate the use of strong cryptography to prevent Slash-dotting :-)

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From Anders.Berg at vg.no  Mon Jul 17 09:12:19 2006
From: Anders.Berg at vg.no (Anders Berg)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:12:19 +0200
Subject: SV: Varnish article on www.linpro.no 
References: <44731.1153123398@critter.freebsd.dk>
Message-ID: <6AD33D89A21F7B479107D712EF96FDA528CBB6@VG-EXC-VIR-1.Akersgt.local>

Norwegian you mean? Stronger than SHA1 and MD5 :)
 
Anders Berg

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Emne: Re: Varnish article on www.linpro.no 



In message <ujrhd1gbr31.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:

>http://www.linpro.no/hva_skjer/hardkjoer_for_ny_http_akselerator

I appreciate the use of strong cryptography to prevent Slash-dotting :-)

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From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Mon Jul 17 09:21:19 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:21:19 +0000
Subject: SV: Varnish article on www.linpro.no 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:12:19 +0200."
	<6AD33D89A21F7B479107D712EF96FDA528CBB6@VG-EXC-VIR-1.Akersgt.local> 
Message-ID: <88847.1153128079@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <6AD33D89A21F7B479107D712EF96FDA528CBB6 at VG-EXC-VIR-1.Akersgt.local>,
 "Anders Berg" writes:
>
>Norwegian you mean? Stronger than SHA1 and MD5 :)

In USA a foreign language is stronger than any krypto, but only
if there is no babelfish of course.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


From des at linpro.no  Mon Jul 17 09:20:22 2006
From: des at linpro.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:20:22 +0200
Subject: SV: Varnish article on www.linpro.no
References: <44731.1153123398@critter.freebsd.dk>
	<6AD33D89A21F7B479107D712EF96FDA528CBB6@VG-EXC-VIR-1.Akersgt.local>
Message-ID: <ujry7usa8q1.fsf@cat.linpro.no>

"Anders Berg" <Anders.Berg at vg.no> writes:
> Poul-Henning Kamp <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
> > I appreciate the use of strong cryptography to prevent
> > Slash-dotting :-)
> Norwegian you mean? Stronger than SHA1 and MD5 :)

The next one will be in Navajo!

DES
-- 
Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav
Senior Software Developer
Linpro AS - www.linpro.no


From phk at phk.freebsd.dk  Mon Jul 17 09:28:59 2006
From: phk at phk.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:28:59 +0000
Subject: SV: Varnish article on www.linpro.no 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:20:22 +0200."
	<ujry7usa8q1.fsf@cat.linpro.no> 
Message-ID: <89026.1153128539@critter.freebsd.dk>

In message <ujry7usa8q1.fsf at cat.linpro.no>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgra
v?= writes:
>"Anders Berg" <Anders.Berg at vg.no> writes:
>> Poul-Henning Kamp <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
>> > I appreciate the use of strong cryptography to prevent
>> > Slash-dotting :-)
>> Norwegian you mean? Stronger than SHA1 and MD5 :)
>
>The next one will be in Navajo!

Interesting point of fact:  In the 1990 census, more than 450.000
USAnians claimed to have some level of Danish language ability.

That's 8.6% of the Danish population at the time.

-- 
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phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.